Wednesday, December 31, 7000

Permanent Top Post by JM Talboo and Steve W.



By JM Talboo and Steve W.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-myths-on-conspiracy-theories.htmlMany people subconsciously make the mistake of only seeing the issues concerning 9/11 in black and white, as opposed to shades of gray. This is known as the black-or-white fallacy. In this case, the false dilemma is: 9/11 was either carried out by Al-Qaeda or it was "an inside job."

Just because the evidence suggests that rogue elements of US and other international intelligence agencies were involved doesn't mean bin Laden and Al-Qaeda hijackers weren't involved.

In the fight to uncover the truth about 9/11 we must contend with individuals and groups that distort, omit and lie about important details in order to defend the official narrative - the 911 truth Debunkers.

 

The NORAD-stand-down, various whistleblowers, and physical evidence centered around the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center Buildings in New York, make a strong case that the attacks involved substantial inside help.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - 
Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes 



We might be wrong about where we suspect this all leads, but the "debunkers" are wrong when many essentially argue that it's acceptable for 70% of 9/11 family members questions to have never been answered by the 9/11 Commission. So of course, most have no qualms about promises made to 9/11 family members being broken by the Commission to investigate all whistleblower claims, which a substantial amount of the public find highly-suspicious at minimum, with many regarding the evidence as suggestive of complicity to varied degrees.

The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members.


[On the left side (above) is a video of WTC 7 collapsing. On the right side is a video of a controlled demolition.]


And it stands to reason, that these ilk feel the lack of air defense story is above scrutiny to the point that secrecy and rewards are warranted. So what if this tale consists of 3, or some contend 4, mutually contradictory versions of events and admitted lies. It makes perfect sense that the top officials from NORAD and the FAA received promotions, as opposed to having to provide documents with data that would prove that the jet fighters were acceptably responsive, given the past response time averages.


Unsurprisingly, they hate even the best of the "Loose Change" films, but loose ends are no biggie.

The Washington Post reported on August 2, 2006 that:
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources... "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. 'It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
So, if 9/11 didn't have an inside element, what's to stop such a scenario from taking place in the future when we get investigations that have attributes like these? 

It is therefore the purpose of this website to rebut the hollow claims of the so-called 911 truth 'Debunkers' and clarify what is known about the attacks for the benefit of those following the debate and also for the largely uninformed public.

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Saturday, January 20, 2018

Reply: Ben Shapiro Debunks 911 Conspiracies Using Pure Reason

I like Shapiro aside from him being too hard on Trump sometimes, but he's totally wrong on this one. Since he's focused on the feels as opposed to the facts with this one, I've got an argument that would work for him. The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members. http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2014/03/thousands-of-victims-family-members.html



He pretty much got no support from everybody in the comments, on this particular topic, as most noted, like me, that they do generally support him. Here's a few examples...

Itzdashiznit
The reaction and answer to this question really bothers me, I agree with Mr Shapiro on pretty much everything... except this. Mr Shapiro always says facts over feelings or emotions but sadly his answer to this question was based on emotion this time referencing the number of people who died in this catastrophic event. Looking for answers that make sense and following basic laws of physics now automatically makes you a conspiracy theorist because you choose not to believe what CNN and Fox News tells you. There are a lot of facts about 911 that just don't add up. The American public needs to know why we weren't protected by our government or Norad or anyone else while some guy in a cave can orchestrate and infiltrate the most heavily guarded country on the planet and make 3 buildings collapse at freefall speed with 2 747's. I'm not even going to mention the trillions David Rumsfeld announced were missing the day before the attacks then magically the Pentagon is hit right where the accounting office is.... There needs to be a real investigation one without political influence that uses facts that actually make sense.

Frank Zocchi
First things first. He is not a scientist, so his "opinion" on empirical data relating to 911 would be postulated from a place of ignorance. You see, science gives you clear cut answers, where as logical reasoning only allows you to orate a specious argument. What's in question is not the conspiracy, but the physics behind how gravity works in relation to free falling buildings. You asked a good question, just not to the proper authority. His response should have been, " let me see the research and get back to you". Even smart people have proved themselves to be extremely ignorant from time to time.


Ben Shapiro Debunks 911 Conspiracies Using Pure Reason

False Alerts Go Off In Hawaii and Japan, What's Up With That? - Hawaii tourists say that they saw something blow up in the sky




False Alerts Go Off In Hawaii and Japan, What's Up With That? - Hawaii tourists say that they saw something blow up in the sky

Related:

Nuclear Amber Alert was a Psyop to Distract Clinton Indictments - BREAKING INTEL! Hawaiian Nuclear False Missile Alert Staged By Deep State To Embarrass Trump - Deep State sends Hawaii into state of panic over ballistic missile warning:

http://mindtreasury.blogspot.com/2018/01/nuclear-amber-alert-was-psyop-to.html

Trump is Right about #DemocratShutdown #SchumerShutdown



John Cardillo: Debunking Democrat Lies About DACA Dreamers:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2018/01/john-cardillo-debunking-democrat-lies.html

Government Shut Down is Trumps Fault via Twitter Manipulation #TrumpShutDown - CNN Repeatedly Fact Checks Dem. Senator Durbin Over Shutdown:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2018/01/government-shut-down-is-trumps-fault.html

Paul Ryan SLAMS Senate Democrats & Schumer For Government Shutdown 1/20/18 - Lewandowski: ‘Schumer Shutdown’ Puts Illegal Aliens Ahead of Americans Who ‘Serve Our Country’:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2018/01/paul-ryan-slams-senate-democrats.html

Government shutdown was 'completely avoidable' - Sen. McConnell - Government shutdown. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell addresses the Senate floor:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2018/01/government-shutdown-was-completely.html

Trump is Right about #DemocratShutdown #SchumerShutdown

New Mythbusters 9/11 episode: Stew's Conspiracy Funhouse - Deemed Inappropriate or Offensive by YouTube Censors!?!?!


Why do the Mythbusters refuse to cover the topic of 9/11? Maybe because it would reveal the truth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69p_91_T7qE&t=585s

What a crock of Un-American, fascist, crybaby, bullshit!

Related:

Rampant Un-American Censorship of the 9/11 Truth Movement

Twitter Caught Censoring Conservatives. Google Gets Sued. - Full Show - BOMBSHELL: Twitter Engineers Caught Censoring Conservatives

Truth Teller's Radio Episode 3 - Free Speech and the Enemy of It Known as ANTIFA

Prepare to be Busted - Mythbusters Debunked